Episode 10 - Live streaming Artemis 2 splashdown -

Live stream 11 April, 2026. Covering and analyzing NASA's broadcast.

Last episode of Season 1.

1. Watching module separation, talking about when Orion went behind the Moon earlier in the week.

2. Watching the splashdown. Talking abut the "NASA curse", potential landing by the Fermi life-form and the approach theory.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:28

Well, it's all quiet on the Houston front now, you could say. There it is. Look.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

And we have received confirmation that the crew module and the service module have successfully separated, and we are getting a truly magnificent view, although it is only for a brief moment.

SPEAKER_05 0:48

But when I watched my recording later, it came out wrong, because I didn't quite catch that part when I was away from the studio. I just realized the crew were asking to name craters on the moon after integrity, and that's when it hit me. Since integrity perhaps is meant to symbol a political value, you know, like now it's us with such high morals who are to claim craters on the moon, right? I got that impression, and then I just went and fetched myself a cup of coffee. So when I came back I thought they had just continued in the same way. But then they had switched over to that other naming thing. That sensitive topic there with his wife. But it was, you know, it was right, it became one of those highlights. So it was a beautiful moment. He himself even said it, you know. He the husband of the late Carol, he himself said that it was one of those a truly beautiful moment. And I felt the same way. It was really one of those times where we were all just human beings together. I don't think anyone who watched it, I mean I believe that few who watched it at that time were not deeply affected. I mean, if you're an adult and normal in the head, you know. Yeah, I I just like that was such a beautiful moment. And you could tell it wasn't planned at all, and he almost couldn't keep it together. You know, these guys, they're all macho, you know, fighter pilots and really, really tough types. And then you noticed they broke apart, he couldn't even read it himself. The husband and he, then his partner, that Canadian fellow. I can't recall his name, but the Canadian. He was the one who was given the assignment to present this suggestion regarding names. And then now this name. The more I truly thought about it, it was an incredibly beautiful and poignant moment. And even though it was quite sorrowful, it was more like my goodness. It it was They were no longer robots, so to speak, but it didn't last long, it was only 20 seconds later, and they just had to keep going, right? But then there was the fact that they themselves said it was a beautiful moment, wasn't it? And I completely agree with that. Then the other really significant moment was when they arrived at behind the moon. Yes, I can now go off topic a little again here. Now we'll just have to wait approximately okay then. About ten minutes. Well, yes then, in those minutes behind the moon, that's when it becomes critical. Those minutes when they completely lose all contact with Earth. Yes? And then there was that time when they got to the far side of the moon and took those pictures we saw earlier. They also said it was apparently a truly enormous moment to be to be on the far side there and see the moon is much bigger than the sun and things like that. So just think how many times you've seen the solar systems in books and things like that, and on a screen. But to physically be there and have it right in your face like that, I can only imagine. Or no. That's what they said. They said they were surprised, even though they knew they were going there, and were probably mentally prepared for it. But even the crew said that you wouldn't be able to describe it. However, what was quite interesting about that situation was that it also was at its most hectic when they were behind there. They certainly weren't on the far side there just to look around, I mean to travel for the experience. Perhaps that might happen in the future, but they were there to take photographs and map the terrain. So they really had to work fast. It was the most hectic period considering the very short time they had at their disposal. But they said they took a break together for about three or four minutes, where they took out some biscuits and shared some cookies, and just had a personal shared experience, you know. I don't really believe my own conspiracy about Washington when we were discussing how NASA headquarters is located in Washington DC. However, that's probably what I'm reacting to comes from at NASA. That whole thing with the manipulation and so on. As I said before, I actually believe what the situation is. The simple truth is most likely that they are afraid of the Fermi paradox. They've surely considered the paradox because the vast majority they believe in the paradox. If you look at interviews with scientists and such, almost everyone agrees that Enrico Fermi was indeed correct, and his paradox has actually proven even more accurate as we've gathered more data about the universe. Enrico said this back in the nineteen fifties. But the more we've learned about the universe's development, it has only gained even more significance. Because we're finding out that these first solar systems started even earlier, so potential life in the universe has had even more time to develop, meaning he's even more correct now. So very few people disagree. Most people agree that it's completely realistic, so probably there are other life forms in the universe and they would have evolved earlier than us, being about ten billion years ahead of us. And then Enrico Fermi poses the Fermi paradox. Why don't we see them? Because we should have seen them. But I think that's also what NASA's been considering, that they are afraid of being stopped. Imagine that all the others in the universe were stopped. Now we'll do everything not to be stopped, and then they've become a bit overzealous, right? That stuff with the kids and all that business. So they're employing all the tactics from from what they've learned about democracy during their psychology studies and how you're meant to get the majorities to back their project. I think it's more that it's not some kind of Thelema cult setup, that it has a more normal explanation for it. But I think they are doing something like that. But I think the real reason is just that they're worried about the Fermi paradox. That they're going to try to get out to conquer space and suspect there will always be internal quarrelling within that civilization. So they're trying to do everything not to be stopped. That is what I believe is actually the reason for all of that. Yes, but I have to say, after I began focusing on NASA, that was due to the three Atlas comet. I was completely obsessed with three atlas because it behaved as I had predicted in 2024 in the approach theory. It behaved in a manner consistent with how it displayed the predicted behaviour, isn't that right? From the Fermi life forms and so on. So I was completely engrossed in Atlas three, so to speak, or I thought, oh my gosh. Now it's becoming yet another time I've gotten confirmation, right? On the fact that the theory might be correct. And then in October 2025 the whole thing began. Then NASA started to hold back the images from when three i Atlas passed Mars. When Three Atlas was set to pass Mars, NASA was sitting on exclusive photos that could reveal more details about what Three Atlas truly was. Wow, look, yes, they made it through. Look, look at this, look at this. Now it's the parachutes we're waiting for. First comes the windshield, and then the parachutes appear.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

The pyros are armed for forward bay coverage Edison.

SPEAKER_05 9:35

These are absolutely stunning images.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Up next we'll see the pilot parachutes deploy, which will then pull out the larger main shoes. It's almost time for our splashdown. We're looking at three minutes and ten seconds.

SPEAKER_05 9:53

Yes, that was a brave thing to do. There's nothing that can ever take that from them. When it comes to the NASA curse. According to the theory on the Fermi life forms, it means it's not them they're looking for. Look at that.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Main shoot deploy. We're at five thousand feet.

SPEAKER_05 10:47

Five thousand feet.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Recovery is only possible because of integrity. And we have three good main chutes.

SPEAKER_05 11:00

Oh my goodness. Imagine the feeling that they must have right now.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

The three main chutes are good, the reefing is good, the descent rate is good. And we see three very good looking parachutes.

SPEAKER_05 11:09

We've just gone from 40,000 kilometers an hour. Oh my goodness. It makes you a bit proud to be a human, man.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Cabin pressure indicates no need for hydrogen checks. Integrity copies. This is a truly perfect descent for the ship integrity. And its crew sounds quite hail and hearty, so I'll safe on board.

SPEAKER_05 11:41

Yes? So? Regarding the NASA curse. Regarding the NASA curse, then. So much has happened. Even after January 27th. So I feel that what I'm most interested in now is whether they are pinpointing. Right?

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Integrity is now completing a journey of six hundred ninety-four thousand four hundred eighty-one miles, which began with its launch from the Kennedy Space Center on April first, including a trip around the moon.

SPEAKER_05 12:10

So what might have triggered the actual NASA curse itself? Because that crew there, they are, after all, completely innocent, aren't they? In addition, they are brave and and should be far from zero risk. They should be far from triggering the signal. Far from being willing to trigger zero risk most likely. However, an explosion. That would have been a very strong statement, wouldn't it? But the more I thought about this, I can clearly see now that it would almost have been worse if it had exploded, because then I would have felt that the alien life forms, if that particular theory is correct, then passing through one thousand feet. They were desperate, weren't they? Because then they start killing people they don't really want to, and so on. So the kind of thing that's happening now on the ground and around NASA, people getting killed and going missing and all sorts of weird things like that, that's more what perhaps is a more likely response. If I'm to be if it's more like I'm not saying now, but it's others who've have also noticed this in the media. I see more and more people are starting to discuss it now. All the things that have happened at NASA with these scientists and such, and that was what episode three in February covered. I'm very careful with accusations there, but I did bring it up in those forty-five minute episode three. Wow, there it hits the water.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

We have a confirmed splashdown, and we are now waiting on the VLDR data. The splashdown has been officially confirmed at 7.07 pm Central Time, which is 5.07 p.m. Pacific Time. From the pages of Jules Verne to a modern day mission to the moon, a new chapter of the exploration of our celestial neighbor is complete. Integrity astronauts are back on Earth.

SPEAKER_05 13:54

Yes, back on Earth, as you say. I actually keep forgetting that I'm on the air right now.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Reports. The vehicle is stable and operating nominally. We will still be deploying the crew module's upright system to maintain that orientation. A perfect bullseye splashdown for endeavor.

SPEAKER_05 14:13

At this point, there isn't really much more to look at. I know the rest of it now, so to speak. What happens next is that in an hour they'll come out of the hatch.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

But um about the NASA curse and uh that telemosect uh conspiracy thing. I think it's uh it's important uh to have someone like me, uh, for instance. Uh I'm perfect for that since I have a theory behind it. Um we need to know, right? We can't just take everything for granted. We can't just say, oh, okay, NASA, if you say so, then it's fine. We can't just accept NASA's claim they are doing this uh to help us. The consequences of being lied to this time around are so incredibly extreme. But I don't think uh it's all that strange that they're trying to uh fake things and such simply because of the Fermi paradox. They're just afraid of being stopped. Uh and you notice it, for example, uh during that uh marathon broadcast on the on the pre-show there. So being up all night, uh the entire night, showing the live images uh from Florida. Uh then you saw that uh they didn't have any floodlights on the rocket, right? It seems as if they're afraid someone might do something, you know, that they're anxious all the time. If you're following uh the press conference and things like that, you'll see that there are always these uh uh guards standing around uh to make sure that nothing bad happens. And then there's that whole thing uh, you know, that uh NASA started, uh this idea where you can actually have your name put on a small chip that goes along on the space mission and all that kind of stuff. You understand you know who's most interested in it. I find it quite exciting. Uh it's the children, isn't it? And like, you know, those uh psychopath psychologists, right? Like Jack, uh let's say Jack Parsons had been a psychologist, or for example, Ted Bundy, uh that serial killer, uh, he was actually going into psychology, you know. So, you know, right? Uh I wonder if uh psychology might just attract a lot of those kinds of uh completely bonkers, uh truly crazy individuals, you know, but who are also incredibly intelligent. Because in that situation, you can uh operate and be truly awful without anyone ever realizing it. Especially if you're also smart, because then uh if they start to learn in detail how the brain functions, they can uh truly begin to manipulate our brains, which I've talked about quite a bit before. So I think it's important that uh we at least are allowed to talk about it. Uh it was back in October when uh NASA withheld the images from 3iAtlas. Uh that was the first time I started thinking uh what's up with NASA? Like uh what is it? I started to think maybe then uh maybe they're they're going to uh discover what 3i Atlas was for themselves and not just holding on to um to the images for uh 43 days. Um that they took the images into their own research and began to scrutinize the images because they wanted to understand what this um interstellar object was. But but on the surface, uh they just laugh off that whole three-eye atlas thing. And uh the management of NASA seemed to be laughing it off uh the question of what uh three-eye atlas was and so on. No, haha. It's just a regular comet, right? I mean that is uh uh completely idiotic behavior from their side. And uh you meant to bring up um Avi Loeb again. He has been uh sort of the figurehead from Harvard and his team, and he completely agrees, and I completely agree with him. To be in the space exploration industry and uh to claim those things when uh interstellar objects actually uh appear, just laugh off uh interstellar objects. Uh that's just insane, no matter how you look at it. Uh but for my theory, uh those interstellar objects are important. I have written uh an entire article just on that. Uh my mini article one uh from last fall uh is proposing specifically how interstellar objects uh are used to communicate. Because when interstellar objects arrive, uh excuse me for a moment, it's not that interesting uh to watch the ocean. It's still an hour before anything happens. Uh it's gonna be a full hour before it begins. This is not something that's uh very exciting to watch. But I'll be keeping a very close eye on on this situation. But at least we definitely know the situation. Now the crew just needs to uh get themselves out of that hatch. Well, because the whole thing with interstellar objects, uh it is it is truly quite unique. Uh as I write in my mini articles one and two as well. It's because if there exists uh extraterrestrial life, let's say there exists uh uh a life form very, very far away that somehow manages to control objects within our solar system or within our galaxy, uh, it could be very probable that they are utilizing interstellar objects. Uh that would indeed be an absolutely perfect method to communicate from the outside. Because if some unusual object now enters our solar system from outside, if it were to carry information, uh that information must come from an alien life form out there. Uh because uh we certainly can't be uh sending in these interstellar objects ourselves. They arrive at enormous speeds at unique angles, don't they? Uh they just come right in from the outside. Well, before I continue, I need to uh address something. Last time we were discussing uh how many planets there were in our solar system. I just guessed around uh twenty something. But officially there are eight. Um but then it's a question of how you define it, because there are these planets and uh uh many moons and such things. It's a question of how we define it then. Uh but if uh if someone asks you uh how many planets there are in our solar system, you should answer eight. But actually there are hundreds if you were to uh include all those uh moons and smaller objects and things like that. Uh just so just so that uh we're clear on this then. Yes, but you see there are comets and uh similar objects within our solar system, and these comets uh they do have specific orbits that they adhere to, precisely because they are indeed uh part of the solar system itself. Uh so if one of them uh were to come and crash into our Earth, they would uh behave very predictable. Uh they would just come a little bit out of their established orbit before they would near Earth. But when it comes to interstellar objects, uh they simply uh arrive from a completely different direction. And I also think uh they travel at higher speeds. But they at least come from a completely different angle, so that's how they uh detect them uh on their screens, because first the object is uh one dot among many dots, and then they see that uh this one dot just comes from a completely different angle. Uh that's how they know it has to be an interstellar object. Anyway, for NASA to almost ignore them, uh I think that's uh very strange. It really started with um NASA ignoring the first observed uh incoming object in uh 2017. Omuamua looked almost like this pen here. Uh we have never seen this shape in space. Before ever. We haven't seen this before. You know, comets and uh meteorites and such usually tend to have a kind of uh some kind of round shape then, at least. Um But the uh the interstellar incoming Umwamua in 2017 um had a width-length scale of one to ten. Uh it's not quite like this pen, but it had that uh that ratio of width to length, one to ten. So it almost looks like such a large part of a ballpoint pen then. So it just came fluttering in, that's all. That was really strange. My god, we've never seen anything like it before. Uh what I thought was that uh it looks like the the number one. Uh so it meant it was the first uh uh interstellar object we could observe. Uh umwamua was the first uh I mean one in uh I mean as in the the number one. You see, um actually was uh the very first uh interstellar object detected in mid-air. Uh they have a system for these objects, uh they number them uh I1, I2, I3, and so this first one was I1. Uh but uh its more common name was Umwamua, uh, which means uh a messenger from afar, named from Hawaii because it was discovered from there, which is near to the splashdown site actually. It's not that far. Well, it is quite a ways off, but it's not that far from Hawaii. It's right outside San Diego in California, you see. Uh but we saw it on the map earlier, so it's very much like uh all of this uh that we're talking about uh is uh quite centrally located around that area, uh both with all that uh with Los Angeles uh and Telma and NASA and even Umwamua, because Umwamua was discovered from Hawaii, which isn't that very far from there. So just the fact that uh it arrived in that particular form was really strange, I thought. And Avi Loeb also felt the same way. And uh if I hadn't had Avi Loeb and uh his team to lean on, I would have simply been uh dismissed as uh just some internet quack, as some people tend to call it. So uh that's why it's incredibly valuable to uh have the support of uh Harvard researchers who uh I've become extremely grateful for Harvard's uh involvement in this uh because the officials could all have simply thrown itself into uh into NASA's stand, uh hidden themselves with with NASA, you could say. Uh wait, now we see the ship beginning to approach the capsule. Uh but this whole thing is going to take some uh some time. Uh when I think about it, Christina's coming out then. It would be quite nice to see her again emerging out of the capsule. Well, so uh just so that um because it really does make quite a big difference if I'm just sitting here alone saying it, and that uh I can document that um there are also other researchers, uh prominent, really brilliant researchers, you know. If you're a professor at Harvard, uh then you're not just a professor, then you are, or how how should I compare that then? Well, it's um I believe Harvard is probably uh uh ranked as number one. It's ranked as number one in the whole wide world, the university globally, in the entire world. You can just imagine, you know, now you have a place like Oslo University, and they're like in the 60th, uh 70th uh position or something like that. It's the highest one that we have up here in uh the Nordics or something like that. Uh or wait, I believe it's Stockholm University, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I am uh most proud of actually. Stockholm. Stockholm University. It is actually uh considered the highest uh ranking around here. But uh even Stockholm University, uh, you can actually check this yourself. Uh I looked it up a couple of years ago, and uh it was uh even Stockholm University is uh perhaps in uh fifteenth place, or maybe fourteenth, fifteenth place. But Harvard is like number one. Uh it has been that uh for a very long time, and it has uh a whole bunch of Nobel Prize winners and things like that. So that the support comes from Harvard. Uh that's what I've I've truly learned. I've learned to to appreciate that, and also learned that uh when I've engaged in this uh debate out here on the internet, that this is a very politically charged, I mean it's a very sensitive topic. Um so like uh yeah, and then I have to admit I am uh you know a little bit disorganized, right? So we uh for instance, um during the the live broadcast, I uh sometimes say things a little bit incorrectly. For example, that whole thing about the age of the moon last time. Uh but if there is a season two in this podcast, uh I believe I'll be bringing uh Grok along on my mobile phone. That way, every time a point comes up where I'm not entirely certain, I'll just ask Grok live on air so Grok can tell us. Because then uh I don't have to guess wildly. Like last time, for example, I had to guess how old the moon was. Uh and uh I looked it up afterwards. I guessed ten billion years just to say something. Uh but the truth is four and a half billion years. Uh the moon is approximately sixty million years older uh than the formation of the solar system. It wasn't quite close, no, but you understand. But if uh these people out there, if they're just looking for such things, they'll say, oh, he doesn't even know how old the moon is, right? Uh and haha, then he can't be anything. I mean, it seems they use uh every single little chance to to undermine you. That's why I've started bringing those uh uh diplomas into the studio, because they'll might also claim, no, he has no education. They just say it, even if they know you are educated, they just say it to uh to undermine you, right? No, he's not educated. Uh and then uh the listeners have to spend uh then they'd have to spend many years before they they might figure out that I actually uh was educated, right? So I just bring it to the studio uh to have it, just document it uh once and for all.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

But it's somewhat similar. I really appreciate it that I'm not alone in this way of thinking. Because it means that I have I can I am able to rely on truly skilled people who say and who think the same way. So I can't really say it often enough, actually, how glad I am for that. Because I think about if he and Harvard had also jumped on that NASA thing saying, no, no, no, it's nothing. It's just nothing to care about. Why should we care about anomalies in interstellar objects? And if you hear interviews with Avi Loeb, he's actually angry for the attitude such researchers have, as if they don't want anything new to happen. And I don't mean to be bitchy now, but Avi Loeb He actually said that when he was on Joe Rogan. It was that when they have conferences together and such, I'm not trying to be bitchy and gossip right now, but I think it's quite important and I should bring it up. And it's about what Avi Loeb has overheard when these experts from various universities are holding conferences about Wamwamua when they come together and, you know, evaluate what it was and they observe together that there were quite special things going on. For example, it had a very strange shape, didn't it? It looked like this pen almost. We have never seen this shape in space before. Neither meteorites or a comets. And there were other things too. For example, they calculated that the incoming object suddenly changed speed and so on, so they couldn't explain why or things like that. There are several little things like that. But Loeb was saying on Joe Rogan then that it was a colleague there. It's a bit mean to gossip. I don't really like that, but I think it's important to say this. I'm not saying any names, but just that a real scientist in those circles who hangs out with Avi Loeb and professors at Harvard can say I wish that interstellar object had never come. You understand, right? So it's that reluctance to introduce anything new now that I'm starting to interpret it a bit more in a political direction, that it has something to do with that whole chaos thing, that it's back to the Thalema concepts with Jack Parsons and the Marxist globalist ideas from episode four, perhaps the Epstein situation, and how they were all connected. It's the very same thoughts, you see, and this whole concept of chaos is important because the question of chaos is pivotal in the fourth law of thermodynamics and the paradise machine model, because evil traits must take control of the natural chaos. But I must again remind everyone that when I talk about this, no human can be very evil according to the same theory. Okay. But we also need to have that debate there as well, so that we can be angry at one another and things like that. I believe if, for example, that paradise machine model is truly correct, then I don't think we should bother ourselves so much with us being angry at each other. All this bickering and wars and things we're doing now, because if that paradise state is true for all eternity, then we'd be foolish to care about what we were doing down here on Earth, because we are just humans. For instance, that vulnerable moment that revealed itself up there on Orion where suddenly we just start crying. We're just so vulnerable as we've just been thrown into this game. As I've said before on the podcast, I look at it as if we've been thrown into a game we never asked to be a part of. And so we simply have to adapt to the brutal rules that exist in nature in the struggle for survival game. It's logic for us to be desperate, even if you try to pretend you're relaxed and cool, but no, no human is cool like that. I think deep down we're actually really scared. And we really should be quite afraid because you know the context we live in is utterly brutal, isn't it? It's quite an uncomfortable situation, at least compared to being in eternal paradise. So if we're talking about head biotech, the ultimate goal is this, that if the theories prove to be correct, then there actually exists a place beyond the event horizon in black holes, where there is an eternal paradise, structured in a mathematical format where we theoretically could be copied over. That's precisely what I'm referring to in that instruction video from twenty twenty one. During COVID where I'm wearing the black beanie. I remember that was during COVID. Yes, that was right after I had written the third article in 2021. That video is located somewhere on one of the head biotech websites. Yeah, on Rumble, though, at least, that's the thing about it. I've actually dubbed that into English, but darn it, what was it I was just about to say? And then there's the thing that if the approach theory is indeed correct, if it is truly that they are on their way towards Earth right now, that is the Fermi life form I'm talking about, if they will come in flesh and blood. I just don't know, but it's this hundred percent love and intelligence state that they're getting closer and closer as they are gaining more and more control over us, simply because they have to. They know that someone has triggered zero risk, and for them that should mean if we don't put a stop to this, then the entire paradise machine will be completely inverted and transform into a hell machine instead, won't it? And that is precisely the reason why they are arriving. And that is also really the underlying cause of the NASA curse, because NASA started to interfere with their efforts to communicate using interstellar objects, just as my theory suggests they are attempting to do. And then when I think this all started with NASA losing that Maven probe on Mars on December 6th, and then it was more and more, and so on. But now let's see. Is anything happening here now? We need to see them come out of the capsule. Yes, that is him indeed. I'm not really supposed to say, but I will say this. I don't really care for that guy to be honest. I will actually say it. Yes, he absolutely must know, I mean he holds that important position there and he says nothing, he just plays along. That tells me that he's from that place, that very headquarters of NASA in Washington, DC, that's where he's from. That's what I truly feel he is. If those particular people in Washington have a person that we can actually relate to, then it would have to be him. I'm certainly not suggesting that he isn't a pleasant person, but you can clearly see he's always trying to smooth things over. Hence, as I see it, he's represent that manipulation that's pushing from behind. And he's not interested in like trying to even address this topic. I'm also wondering if it was him who also talked about three I atlas. That thing with three I atlas, they just laughed at it, I don't remember, but one of the NASA leaders ridiculed three I atlas last year. Let's see, where exactly was I? Oh right, that whole thing about the first object in 2017, Wamu Wamua. Well, and about the thing oh yes, okay. Oh right, about that paradise thing, wasn't it? So if they the Fermi life form, then if that's really correct. Then it's only when there is absolutely no risk that they can proceed toward Earth. Since they can't accept evil traits to get the upper hand in the universe, but there are meant to be only a small number to have triggered the zero risk signal. I'm not saying they're going to hell or anything like that, but I'm saying that the machine might be designed that way, and that's why there is no point in achieving zero risk if the consequence is just that. It's the principle of justice in the machine's design then, if this is, let's say, a type of quantum machine. That's essentially the paradise machine model, isn't it? You can picture it that way because it seems like the machine is designed around a quantum world where they hide behind the quantum world, as discussed in the fifth article last fall. So if they size you up and measure that you are planning to send them all straight to hell and that you really do like since they can prove it mathematically, then it's true, right? If everything is to be fair, even though it's horrible that someone goes to hell and all, then it's fair that you go to hell, isn't it? Let's just say it's like a cold computing machine then. So it's good to know about this theory that it would be wise to take two steps back, that's my contribution to peace, and even trying to save someone. And maybe, I mean, it's very difficult because I can't decide that, but it'll be up to the machine then. If if the theory is correct. But if you are, I mean if you're quite simply just too evil, then yes. But but my impression is that there aren't too many of them. I mean, most people are genuinely very kind and good at heart. You can almost just tell by how we react if someone for example, if someone sees someone is about to fall off a mountain or something like that, then you'll see everyone will just try to save them. It's exactly as if it's deeply embedded within our very instinct to be helpful and to be kind. And so on. So if the paradise machine model is indeed correct, then I believe we can at least put that idea aside. Well, I mean I mean I think we I think we'll forget the arguing thing quite quickly then, if we manage to prove the model, but that's my task right now in the process. The point is you have to consider the theory as more and more evidence comes to light. But if it's true, no one will be able to stop the evidence as they will simply continue their approach. So what I'm wondering about now as we're beginning to wrap up this first season of the forty five podcast, it's gonna be ten episodes that are all about this NASA curse topic. So the next season would then possibly be in the year 2028, because by then Artemis IV are scheduled to land on the moon, and then a whole lot of things might have taken place. And if it just if it simply fades away and nothing further develops, then yeah, then that theory will also be gone. Then the probability that the approach theory and all of this is correct also diminishes. But having seen as much as I have now, I have also calculated so-called p values for it, what the probability is that this is random and so on and not random and so on. And I believe I have some evidence here. And then what's happening now is possibly the NASA curse. These must be the most interesting thing that are going on now. Yes, at a practical level you could say these things on the ground level. I simply notice that it is much talked about now. There are many scientists who simply vanish, especially within NASA. And then I need to be a little careful about bringing people's personal tragedies into these kinds of topics. But I would say that if the NASA curse is real, it would perhaps be a more natural way to respond, let's say, if the Fermi lifeform is trying to respond to NASA's provocation last fall, and that it would be more natural for them to respond with that level of detail. So people who, for example, were directly involved at that time last fall, if that was the situation, instead of blowing up that entire spaceship with what were supposed to be their friends inside. So that's what I mean. I believe that if something like that had truly occurred, then I would have considered that to be worrying. That would make me a little uneasy. But I can hardly do anything else other than to. I documented the Artemis 2 mission, I certainly did. I did precisely what I had planned and said I would do. It's just that there ended up being a few more episodes because the launch kept getting postponed over and over. It was initially postponed from February, then again until now, April, but now it has finally happened, so I believe I'm going to start wrapping up the entire 45 podcast, which will then officially become season one. Just now, I'm not sure if it's particularly interesting to wait for the crew to step out of the capsule. And just look at Christina's smile, just think about that for a moment. After coming out of that capsule, finally we can meet up. Yeah, but I'm just thinking about what else is going to happen besides that. That would be fun, but I can watch it on my own time, right? It's not really something I need to cover, you know. Let's see now. And now they're about to go through the entire procedure of opening the hatch. Now you can clearly see they're approaching the capsule more and more. Yeah, so that's the situation that we're in.

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And it's possible I won't even do it then. Who knows what could have happened during that time. Maybe I completely lost all my interest or something like that, or whatever, but I at least managed to get this done, and it was exciting as well. The so-called NASA curse due to the three eye atlas delay. Then we had December 6th, which came about 14 days after the delay, NASA's delay of the atlas images. And it's that the UN started the global observation of three atlases, nine days before NASA lost contact with Maven. They shouldn't really like that either, right? They must always try to obtain their dominant zero risk situation in the universe, or in the machine, if you like. The Paradise Machine model should be designed always to possess zero risk before they can make any new offensive action. So if they are to take even one step closer to Earth, they must make sure it will be risk-free. They cannot advance a single step closer to Earth if not. Consequently, if this life form were to arrive here on Earth one day. Let's imagine for a moment they actually come to Earth. Then there would have to be absolutely zero risk when they land, right? This is a good way to end season one. Season one. When they arrive, I've never really spoken about, but it's rather fascinating, and that's the last thing I believe I speak about for now. Okay, I'll just wrap this up. Um the last thing I'll describe is their landing. That's not what's important in the theory, but I actually predict it in the approach theory. In the 2024 article, I actually predict how it will unfold. But it was the fact that the UN started this global observation on November 27th, just nine days before NASA lost contact with Maven, when the so-called NASA curse is supposed to have started on December 6th. And then this second incident happened on January 27th, that NASA had to cut short their stay on the space station by four weeks. And then there was this third incident with the NASA plane that crash landed in Ohio January 27th. It was right there in Houston, just next to the control center, you know. At um at Johnson Space Center. That's where they operate in Houston, Texas. Um it's Ellington Airport, it's just three kilometers next to it. That's where that's when I decided on January 27th, because that was the third incident. And that's when I started to prepare myself because I wanted to document that Artemis 2 launch in case it was going to explode. Then I thought, if it really explodes, it's getting serious here. But then, well, you know. Then but when I gave it a bit more thought, and this shows why it was actually okay to have this podcast to share these thoughts all the way on how I think and how things developed, that an explosion would actually be a little misplaced. Because the more I reflected on it, to harm that crew and cause suffering, they shouldn't be their enemies at all, considering they're taking that risk. So I said that pretty early on. But then that whole thing with the scientist began. It's the murder of that NASA scientist that became the central point instead. And then suddenly it was like, oh, is this perhaps the direction they're actually heading in, isn't it? That the whole thing starts to become an internal matter right there within NASA itself, that perhaps those who were simply responsible for that delay and the deliberate withholding of information that was truly meant to provoke them. So it's just a speculation, but it feels like that's a more logic response. And then there's that SETI researcher who disappeared. That's what you see the other podcasts and media are reporting on now, so I don't know. There seem to be more people. The media reports that there are more who have vanished, including other lower ranking scientists and such. So uh I haven't really delved into it, but I I'll wait until something truly happens before I start a new episode. Then something truly substantial needs to happen. Otherwise, I'll just I mean I'm pretty much putting season one to rest, so to speak. In that case, I'll simply wrap it up completely with these ten episodes. So I'm going to conclude season one now by showing you these images from the capsule. While I'll use the last three minutes of this last episode to describe how they're going to land on Earth. Because it's quite interesting if the theory is correct, and I actually believe it could be, then they are not in physical form behind the event horizon. They exist mathematically. They will live in a mathematical form, but with the features of one hundred percent pure intelligence and love, not in a biological form, but in an eternal mathematical form. But if they are on their way here and are going to take control here and so on, then I predict they might land in a physical form. This is not at the core of the theory, but their landing is described in the 2024 paper. By the way, look, they're approaching the capsule now. So at the end of the paper, it suggests they will come in spaceships. If it happens, they'll probably come in spaceships. I mean classic disc-shaped spaceships. The only reason for that is because they will probably uh because their goal, you see, uh is not to make us afraid, right? They are supposed to be kind. Uh the whole point is that they're meant to be they're only meant to wish us well. Um so and the reason I suggest that they would come in those classic UFOs, it's simply because our culture, it would be the most reassuring for us to see something we've already witnessed on television countless times and such. So that's that's just the only reason I'm suggesting that if they were to appear in physical form and even land on Earth in spaceships like that, it's only because it's been shaped by our culture and it's what we've seen and are most familiar with which will scare us the least because they don't want to scare us. So that's the only thing. But if it were to happen the day it happens, what I suggested in mini article two last fall was that um they could arrive in a hundred years, but let's say sixty years, let's say forty years, fifty, I don't know. But if it's true that perhaps we've seen the first signs that a life form is heading towards Earth. So if that's right, let's say in ten, twenty years from now, the other scientists on Earth will start to agree. Yes, now we can also see it, because then we can prove it with statistics and such that these signs are growing stronger and stronger and stronger. But it's quite natural that I'm the first one to see the signs. But if this here, if I am truly correct and it gains consensus, as they say in the scientific world, then the question is, then it will probably be accepted in fact, but it will take time. Well, back to that particular day when they land. That day then, that day on earth when all the people on earth can see them for the first time see them arriving then in these spaceships, then everyone on earth will know that they're coming to paradise and things like that. Because then everything will be proven and then everyone will be one hundred percent certain if it were to happen then. So that is the day. When that happens, it will be a quite incredible day. And imagine if we get or let's say, let's say it happens in thirty years then. Forty years. Let's say we're still alive. Imagine if we get to experience that. And to meet another life form in that particular way, that is, you know, the ultimate consequences of the approach theory. But as it stands right now, I'm simply trying to analyze this and trying to get a few more people to understand it. You know, maybe, maybe okay. If not, then I must have forgotten to say something. Yes, there's probably something I forgot to mention, but I believe I've said most of what I wanted, and I think I managed to cover approximately what I aimed for. Well no, but you know what? So, um what time is it now? Okay, that's been quite enough. I've been at it for two hours and forty-five minutes. It's a good time to split this into two episodes. So we'll have episode nine and episode ten. So this here is going to be this is episode number ten, and it marks the conclusion of episode number ten, and also the very end of our first season for the podcast, which is known by the name Fertifen Podcasten in Norwegian. However, when translated into English, it is called the 45 Show. I'd like to thank you again for your attention, and I wish everyone a continued pleasant night.